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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
Stokes
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I`m moving from step-in highbacks to straps...
I always hear people mentioning how they don`t need to sit down to buckle up, but ya know, when I`m on the slopes I still see most strap users on their backside before every run. I live out East (US), the runs are short, and there are a lot of runs in a day, so if I can just strap in off the lift and go, it does make a difference. Out West, that`s a different story...
So, what is the easiest set of straps to attach/remove?
So far I like the look of Ride SPi bindings, but haven`t demo`d them. Thanks! -t
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
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year and really like it, but it can sometimes be a real pain to get OUT of... Sometimes the ratchet release just doesn`t want to budge. Other than that I can`t complain. My foot doesn`t budge and I have no discomfort.
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
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you`ve had some practice. Part of it is general snowboarding skills: can you balance well enough to get in/out while standing up? Can you do this on an icy or steep trail?
There are of course some model-specific issues, and some of these differ according to the rider. Take the Salomon bindings for example. The toe strap on many of them doesn`t come all the way undone... which makes getting in and out easier for some but harder for others particularly those with bulky boots. I find the Salomons very quick to get in and out of because the ratchets are big and easy to grab and the toes strap doesn`t come all the way undone. They took a little getting used to because the ratchets need to be pulled at kind of a weird angle in order to release them.
I`ve never tried Flows so I can`t comment; I see some people getting in and out very quick and others struggling. Also, some models clog up in powdery or slushy conditions easier - the Salomons IMHO are pretty good for not clogging up and being easy to clean out; the previous strap binding I used was a `98 Burton CFX (?) and those clogged up much more readily and were harder to get working again.
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
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vs. step-in debate. You can search history for those and if you look at the market...straps won! (1) Why going from stepins to straps? I started with straps when I learned. Moved to clicker plates. Then moved to Clicker highbacks. I gotta tell ya, I do love them and have experienced none of the negative affects posted & reported. The rare conditions that cause a clog are few and far between and probably go in line with the tinkering I`d do to any binding. That said, I board backcountry, trees, moguls, steeps...not a lot of hiking up the pipe, and such. If I was spending all day in the park hiking back up after each run, it may be different story.
My gf just had to get a boot refitted and the shop told her how awful her stepins are for her riding. Gave a line about how the straps help pull the board around when you turn and such. I dunno, I don`t buy it. I think if your skills are sharp it doesn`t matter...you turn with your edges and weight shifts and should not be pulling your board around by your straps. I board some pretty extreme terrain and need to turn quick to avoide bumps, trees & rocks and I sense no lag in response time or control.
So why am I switching? Well, the step-in market is in the toilet. They have gotten a bad rap from being in the rental market and just a general poor acceptance by many young riders. The downside for step-in riders is that this limits the boot/binding selections since fewer are buying. K2 has a very sweet HB step-in setup and BOA boot this year. Among other features and light weight, they put a lot of the dampening into the boot/binding that today`s top straps have. I can`t find anyone stocking it. Plus, just about any shop you go into will talk you out of step-ins these days because the people in the shop don`t ride them and the image is that they are best for beginners.
Main reason to switch, though, is I like to have an open mind. If so many people are raving about the current straps I`d like to try them. If I still think the inconvenience outweighs the benefits I`ll sell them on Ebay and look for something new next season. Maybe I`ll notice the better feel in my boot-board connection that I hear about and I`ll be raving about straps in a few months. (2) Why the hurry? Hardie, thanks for the strap tips. I`ll use `em. Like I said, I get a few West trips a year and I ride the whole mountain and have an absolute blast. My east coast runs, though, really are very short. Sure I have the occasional clothing/boot adjustment, but most of the time I ride right off the lift and hit the trail. I have a buddy who is always sitting down before every run (he has step-ins too...don`t ask) and its a pain in the ass to wait before every run. Why? I dunno, I suppose when it comes to boarding I`m still just a little kid with ants in the pants and I can`t wait to ride down the trail I`ve been staring at the whole ride up.
Must be on my 10th year riding now and I still want to hit that trail ASAP. I also still ride with skiers on a regular basis. They ride off the lift and go and if I`m messing with a binding every trip, I`m holding everyone else up.
Appreciate the front binding trick and the info Mike posted on Salomon bindings.
My local shop is out of the setup I wanted so I guess I`ll find a stocked shop out in Salt Lake City after Christmas...unless anyone can suggest a good mailorder place that sells 2003 equipment!?!?
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
Brevan
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Hardie, well said my friend....
I have Drake F60s and I will never use another binding at this point. Toe/Heel ramps, Toe/arch wrachets. Who could ask for more?? Oh yeah, and the toolless forward lean adjusters.
I`m in and out in 1/2 the time it takes my friend w/ the K2 clickers. Thoese things are just a novelty for the people that think they`re getting on the trail faster than you. And another thing, the only time my ass touches snow, is then they forget to wipe it off the lift chair.
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Posted 2 Years, 3 Months ago
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straps (when riding soft boots) It is definitely possible to get into Clickers faster than it is possible to get into straps. In fact, I used to dismount the lift, click in to my HB Pros, and lock the forward lean clip on the highback without even stopping. (When the unloading area was reasonably clear of gapers and the trail was flat enough so I had time to clip the lean lock before I got going too fast!!!) Now I have to stop (but not sit) to tighten the straps.
I still think Clickers are a superior interface to straps when it comes to getting in/out quickly. The HB Pro`s were very supportive and I never had any complaints about performance. However, I ride straps now because none of the Clicker-compatible boots fit me well. That`s reason enough for me to use straps.
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