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BurtonBlunt420
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago Linkback
Hello all, I'm new to snowboarding, it's my second year, and I just bought all my gear. I wasn't really paying attention to board width when I bought my board, just length and I ended up buying a board with a width of 250. I wear size 11 boots and when I strap in my boots overhang on both the heel and toe side.

I have my bindingss at 15/15 degrees and 21 inches apart O.C. If I have my bindings centered I have about 3/4 an inch boot overhang on both my heel and toe side. If I move my bindings back I have about a 1 and a 1/4 inch heel overhang and about a 1/4 inch toe overhang. The bindings don't hang off the board at all, it's just the tip of the boots. When I lean on the toe and heel side on my carpet it feels like I've got alot of room before it will scrape but I don't know how it will be once I'm in snow.

I was wondering if this was going to be a big problem or if this is something I can work with? The board said it fits M/L bindings and I have L bindings.

Here's my situation, I ordered this board from a magazine and its unused so I can still return it if I need a wider board but I really don't want to return this board. I really like it and we're supposed to get 1-3 inches of snow 72 hours from now and I was REALLY looking forward to shreding with my new set up.

So what do you guys think? Am I going to be constantly draging my heel and toe and falling all the time or will I still be able to ride fine with a 1 to 1.5 inch total boot overhang? Am I fine with this board or would I be better off returning it and buying a new one? If I keep it would I be better off with my bindings centered or have them set back with more heel drag and less toe?

Thanks in advance for any help. I'm new to snowboarding so I don't really know how this setup will ride. Oh, and just so you know, I've only been snowboarding for a year but I'm still pretty good because I skated for like 6 years before I started snowboarding. I allready had the balance down and I've allready got the rail tricks. Now I just need a sick board and I'm good to go!
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago Linkback
BurtonBlunt420, welcome to the forum

I know that a little overhang is OK but too much can cause problems. I am not sure how much is too much. Still I think 1 inch is not much really....
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BurtonBlunt420
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago Linkback
All right, cool. I really don't want to return this board so I think I'm gonna try and work with it.

So if I do encounter toe and heel drag is this just going to slow me down on turn or is my boot gonna catch and send me flying eating shit? I'm totaly fine with it if it's just gonna slow me down.

And thanks for welcoming me to the forum, you'll probably see me around here a lot this winter
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago Linkback
Well personally I don't think it should form any problem at all. Although myself I never had this - From reading about it, it should be OK with 1 inch only, no slowing down or nothing.


However, I still wish some more exprienced members here would come give their input on it.
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BurtonBlunt420
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Posted 2 Years, 2 Months ago Linkback
I rode the set up this weekend and didn't experience any problems bu I wasn't doing any serious carving though.
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Posted 2 Years ago Linkback
I have the same sort of situation. Decided to buy my first board last week from snow and rock. Size 10boots, standard width board (Ride Decade 08) and bindings. However when trying on at home the binding is tight against board edge and toe is approx 1 1/2 - 1 3/4inch overhang and heel about 1inch. Went to Snow and Rock and had a chat with the guy but he didn't think it will be a problem, although suspect that he couldn't be arsed to change. He said it will be fine as I would need to be very aggressive carves (45degree plus) before its a problem.
Im off in a few weeks and don't want a load of toe/heel drag problems as there is nothing I can do once used.
Does anyone have any ideas on max amount of hang on toes and heels? I would like to have some sort of amo to go back to S&R with.
thanks in advance
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Posted 2 Years ago Linkback
There is something I do to my boots that will probably void the warranty. When the bindings are set in a desirable location, strap the boots in while wearing them. Draw an imaginary line from the snowboard edge to the boot toes/heel. Proced to shave off as much is needed without penetrating some functional area, such as a waterproof barrier, ect..... Shoe goop may cover up any minor mistakes.
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Posted 2 Years ago Linkback
Dougal welcome to the forum
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Posted 1 Year, 10 Months ago Linkback
Hey all, I'm encountering the same problem. Just ordered a Jeremy Jones 159. I wear a size 11-12 boot, the board has a 247 mm width. I really don't want to return it either and get a wide board cause I really like this one. It's the end of the season anyways, so it wouldn't really matter but I'm hoping I can get away with it. I like the guys idea about shaving down the toe, that may work. I'm also thinking if I move my binding back it won't be much of a problem, although then me heel might be off too much. we'll see once it gets here, but just wanted to know if you ended up having any problems.
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Posted 1 Year, 10 Months ago Linkback
i use bindings with gas pedals. that lifts the toe up a bit. i wear a big boot and one of my boards is 25.4cm wide at the waist. i dont really feel much issue. just make sure the heel and toe overhang is equal. i also have the front binding at 21 and the rear at -15. thats how i ride it anyway. good luck, adam
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Posted 1 Year, 10 Months ago Linkback
appreciate, thanks
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Posted 1 Year, 2 Months ago Linkback
Same situation....I dont know if I need wide board or no?Got like almost inch boot overhang on both my heel and toe side.My board width is 250 and I have size 9USA boots?
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Posted 1 Year, 2 Months ago Linkback
How often do you do huge/big hard bumps, and body dragging carving turns?
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Posted 1 Year, 2 Months ago Linkback
Not so often....so I am still wondering do I need wide board or mine with 250mm width is ok?
The problem is that one guy told me that my front part of the boots are ahead then the edge of the board.And he said that sometimes maybe the boots will hit the snow(ground) and I will fall if I do a bit agresive turn.Can you help me please?
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Posted 1 Year, 2 Months ago Linkback
On harder snow the boots will lift your edges off the ground during some turns with excessive boot overhang. Sketchier on heelside turns for carvers. Toeside turns can be easier to recover from when the edge lifts off the snow while carving. Better to minimize the overhang so these compromising situations are not encountered.

I bevel my boots in relation to the edge. This can be a boot warranty issue at minimum.Some people use toe risers,some boots are smaller per same foot size. Binding orientation can reduce boot overhang also.
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago Linkback
I seem to be having the same issue with to overhang. Considering this coming season would only be my second season I wouldn't be doing very much in the way of hard carving.

My setup is a 157 Escape allmountain
L Ride Contraband bindings
size 10.5 32 Lashed Boots.

The board was the gift and is a little smaller than 159 I rode last season. I have an 1 1/4 boot overhang on both sides. The trimming the boot idea doesn't sound too bad but my boots have a crazy soft base and I think they would wear away too easily.

Just wondering if I should worry about it or not?
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago Linkback
The left and right boot have 1 inch+ toe overhang, or both the toe and heels overhang 1 inch+ on the same boot?
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago Linkback
both boots overhang about an inch both toe and heal side
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Posted 1 Year, 1 Month ago Linkback
Looks like you are in a very grey area on 11/4 inch boot overhang everywhere. There are pluses and minuses, narrower board can give better edge to edge response, overhang in deep pow can create a little more drag, overhang in harder snow on bumps can lift edges resulting in loss of edge contact (skidding at minimum). If hard carving (hope you don't have to do an emergency maneuver resulting in a hard carve avoiding Tony the tourist) isn't done, then the edge lifting should not be an issue because you are not doing technical serious turns.
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Posted 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago Linkback
I rode a 158 forum recon w/ L K2 bindings and didnt have a problem last year, but this year i opted to go smaller and got a 152 burton operator with XL ride contrabands (and i wear a size 11 burton boot)...i do over hang a bit but i honestly havent measured it and havent hit the mountain yet this year to determine if im going to have a problem.

also, i have a 148 santa cruz with L ride contrabands that overhang a little too but the SC is going to be used solely for street rails and shit like that.

anyone think im going to have a major problem? i love my contrabands but dont know if i should set them up differently or shave any part of the boot/binding.
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TWITCH2486
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Posted 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago Linkback
I have the same question, I just bought the 2010 burton blunt size 155 the waist width is 252mm and bought a size 12 dc boot. The toe and heel both hang off the edge of the board about 2 inches at no angle. How big of an angle would i have to do so it doesn't hang off? I havent bought bindings yet, it seems like the angle would have to be be way too high and not rideable for it not to hang off--any way to make this work?
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Posted 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago Linkback
i saw on a table that if you have a size 11-12 boot, you will require a midwide-wide board; i.e. a board greater than 25.5cm at the waist. the burton operator is only 24.2cm at the waist and with XL ride contrabands, they dont work. however, i also have a pair of L ride contrabands that only overhang about an inch at max..and that's +15/-10...i could change my stance a little but the overhang still isnt disappearing that much.

either way, im returning my XL bindings, selling my '09 burton operator and buying a capita stairmaster; which i hear runs pretty midwide to begin with.

if i were you, id go to a website like 'the house' or 'proboardshop' and check out the sizing chart table when buying your new board.
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Posted 8 Months, 3 Weeks ago Linkback
Thanks for the recommendations. I went on the ProBoardShop website for the first time today. The website was very effective for me. The top ten link for snowboards might be a valuable tool to sort with.
Last Edit: 2009/11/29 14:51 By PerryRObray.
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